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Alissa's avatar

I think it all has to do with reaping what you sow... If your harvest is good fruits you benefit life as it's meant to be from that harvest for that aionios until the next harvest and new aionios, otherwise you need to keep pruning.

You can keep enjoying those good harvests time and again until you sow bad seeds and need to reexamine your actions for where love is not in them. I think that's how to measure aionios.

I'm not convinced it necessarily has anything to do with an afterlife, just the lifespan of love/life or punishment/"death" between our actions and the results of them.

The worst of all bad seeds is hypocrisy and deceit. Bad seeds, bad deeds, disguised as good. Sometimes it's good seeds in others pointed out as bad. Sometimes it's resisting pruning for yourself because you're pointing out somebody else's need for pruning to distract from your own lack of life in this aionios.

...And the worst of the seeds of hypocrisy is blasphemy--claiming bad seeds to be of God and using the name and claimed authority of God to condone bad seeds and/or shame good seeds, to try to avoid pruning/"death"/humility/growing in love, and the effects/harvest of harmful actions/seeds, or to control others.

The funny(-in-sad-way) thing about this is that the things Christianity traditionally teaches assist people in missing out on living their lives that way...

...The idea of aionios being an eternal afterlife, and especially the idea of faith just being "believing in Jesus" as kids "believe in Santa" as though that's a proclamation of Jesus of Nazareth simply not being a fictional character...rather than the faith Jesus talks about: our deeds and walk through life being led by trust/love... Living for the afterlife too often makes people forget to live in faith from aionios to aionios.

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That is disingenuous and misleading. I also trust Jesus' words more than those of anyone else. But this isn't a question of whether we do or don't trust the words of Jesus. It is a question of rightly interpreting scripture and understanding the difference in literal and figurative language. As a former minister and a retired college English professor, I have some measure of knowledge and expertise in both areas. For example, in His own words, Jesus declared that He was the door, but no one who trusts Jesus believes He has hinges. In His own words, Jesus stated that he was the true vine, but no one who trusts Jesus believes He is green, climbs a trellis, or sprouts leaves. Constructing a belief (like reincarnation) based solely on one biblical verse, particularly when that belief stands in opposition to the entire canon of scripture, is not only dangerous but foolhardy. That is how false doctrines begin. As someone who comments publicly on biblical points, you should already know this. You are, of course, free to believe whatever you wish regarding absolutely anything, but no one is free to put forth unscriptural beliefs without being called out by other Believers who also know the truth of scripture. Believers are called to contend for the faith handed down to us (Jude 3). That includes pointing our error when it attempts to masquerade as truth. Reincarnation is error. There is no support for it anywhere in scripture, and myriad passages that argue against it. Saying "I trust the words of Jesus" is a poor attempt to create a straw-man argument. I, too, trust the words of Jesus. All true Believers do. But that doesn't grant anyone license to interpret scripture incorrectly and pass it off as truth. Reincarnation is a lie. The canon of scripture shows it to be such. Jesus didn't believe in reincarnation. To claim His words indicate otherwise is to badly misinterpret and misunderstand what He was really saying. I post all this for the benefit of those who honestly seek the truth found in the Word of God. As I said, you are free to believe whatever you choose. God gives us all free will. If you wish, you are free to believe Jesus literally has hinges and sprouts leaves. That would still be a misinterpretation of scripture, but you can believe it if you wish to. Peace.

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